Guest Name: Paolo Gaudiano
LinkedIn: pgaudiano
Summary
In this thought-provoking episode of Poddin' My Noggin, host C.K. Simms sits down with Paolo Gaudiano, author of Measuring Inclusion: Higher Profits and Happier People without Guesswork or Backlash. Together, they unpack what it truly means to foster inclusion in the workplace. Gaudiano challenges traditional views, defining inclusion not as a feeling, but as measurable access and equitable experience. He shares how data-driven strategies can uncover exclusion, promote real meritocracy, and drive both social and economic value. The conversation highlights the importance of leadership accountability, the intersection of privilege and advocacy, and why DEI efforts must evolve to be more impactful and resilient.
Takeaways
- Measuring inclusion is essential for organizational success.
- Inclusion should be defined by access, not feelings.
- Workplace experiences are more important than individual feelings.
- Organizations must focus on the root causes of exclusion.
- Leadership plays a crucial role in fostering inclusion.
- Diversity will follow when inclusion is prioritized.
- Meritocracy must be measured to ensure fairness.
- The backlash against DEI initiatives is significant and must be addressed.
- Creating an inclusive environment benefits everyone, not just marginalized groups.
- Understanding and addressing biases is key to effective leadership.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Measuring Inclusion
01:42 The Title's Significance and Its Components
06:55 Redefining Inclusion: Access Over Feelings
14:27 Understanding Workplace Experiences
18:28 Leadership and Transparency in Inclusion
22:21 Paolo's Journey: From Science to Inclusion Advocacy
27:53 Leveraging Privilege for Inclusivity
29:27 The Four M's of Measuring Inclusion
34:46 Experiences Over Identities in Inclusion
37:02 Building Inclusion to Achieve Diversity
39:50 Modeling Inclusion in Media Spaces
43:01 Meritocracy and Bias in Promotions
45:06 Tools for Measuring Inclusion
48:43 The Importance of Understanding Inclusion
Keywords
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