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Today, Sheila, Kelsey, and Kaylee explore what it’s like when the world moves on after your loss—and you don’t. They share Lilly’s story as a way into discussing the power of celebrating a loved one’s birthday instead of their death day, how to talk to children about grief early on, and the ripple effects of loss through generations. The girls also open up about how surprisingly easy—and important—it can be to talk about death, and the ways they work to destigmatize grief, one conversation at a time.

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This episode was produced and edited by Kelsey Jae.