Theologian and pastor Claudio Carvalhaes is the brilliant liturgical artist and professor at Union Theological Seminary in New York City. He is so full of life, creativity, and love for the world. Being around him is profoundly transformative.
In part one, he and host Sara Hayden examine the way the desert maximizes our own current life predicaments, and how all the spaces in the world that might feel like traps could be doorways into our true selves.
