The Rev. Elizabeth Edman is an Episcopal priest and long-time activist who has an incredible story to tell of the significance of community, of family, and pride. She is also author of the moving book Queer Virtue. In part two of our conversation, we speak about the ethical and spiritual demands that queerness makes of those who claim and live that identity, and how might they inform and shape the ethical and spiritual demands of those of us who claim Christian identity; and why we might hold onto - and live into - hope in times like these.