Janelle shares a recent experience at a performing arts show about finding joy and overcoming childhood trauma and abuse. Stephen reflects on his own childhood trauma and how he is learning to identify behaviours related to it. They share personal stories and explore the themes of healing, self-discovery, and finding joy. They also discuss the importance of setting boundaries, prioritizing self-care, and pursuing creative outlets. The conversation ends with a call to action for listeners to identify their own 'banjo' - the thing that brings them joy and fulfillment.