In this episode of Natural Passages: Revealing the Unmarked Doors of Life, host Herb Stevenson explores what it really means to pay attention. It’s easy to say we’re paying attention, but are we doing it out of old habits and mental routines—or are we consciously aware of what’s right in front of us?
Herb introduces a fresh perspective on the Tuckman stages of group development—forming, storming, norming, and performing—and applies them to our internal process of relating to ourselves, others, and the world. He walks through four stages of attention and shows how they influence our ability to connect, communicate, and grow.
What it means to “pay attention to what” instead of just paying attention
How internal safety and self-image shape our awareness (Forming)
The challenges of differentiation, debate, and defense (Storming)
Moving into authentic dialogue and shared understanding (Norming)
Experiencing true presence, connection, and generativity (Performing/We)
How these stages mirror personal relationships, teams, and even global dynamics
Herb also reflects on the current “storming” stage in the world and offers insights into how shifting toward a me and you or we perspective can create meaningful change in our communities and beyond.
This episode offers practical frameworks for anyone seeking deeper self-awareness, stronger relationships, or more effective leadership. Whether you’re navigating personal growth, business dynamics, or social change, Herb provides tools to recognize where you are in the process—and how to move forward.
🎧 Tune in now and discover how paying attention can transform your inner and outer world.