In this episode, Phen and Kevin discuss their experiences as software engineers and the challenges of getting a job in the field. They also talk about the importance of communication skills and the difficulties of coding interviews. Kevin shares his journey of working on a video game as a side project and the process of playtesting and receiving feedback. They also touch on their passion for cooking and food. In this conversation, Phen and Kevin discuss their passion for cooking and food. They explore the idea of starting a cooking content series on YouTube. They also talk about Kevin's Chinese name and his parents' restaurant. The conversation then shifts to Kevin's love for singing and his YouTube channel. They touch on their upcoming trip to Japan and their excitement for experiencing a different culture. Finally, they discuss Kevin's interest in rock climbing.
