In this conversation, Ceci and Pastor Dave Roberts explore the profound impact of tragedy on personal perspective and purpose. They discuss the assassination of Charlie Kirk and how it has awakened a sense of urgency in people's lives to reflect on their mission and the importance of living for Jesus. The dialogue emphasizes the need for genuine face-to-face conversations, the power of forgiveness as exemplified by Stephen in the Bible, and the hope that comes from grieving with faith. They also touch on the stirring hunger for revival and the importance of engaging with the world around us, building community, and planting seeds of faith in everyday conversations.