In this episode, Amy and Nicole discuss the challenges of being staffed in prison and the limited programs available to incarcerated individuals. They highlight the lack of control in choosing facilities and the focus on keeping good workers in certain institutions. The hosts also mention their plans for future episodes on the costs of incarceration and the impact of changes in routine on incarcerated individuals. Ru, Amy's partner, joins the conversation to share his perspective on being staffed and the importance of staying present in prison. In this episode, Amy and Nicole reflect on the wisdom and growth they have witnessed in their incarcerated loved ones. They discuss the power of self-improvement and how it can unlock new levels of wisdom and personal transformation. The conversation also explores the deep sense of gratitude and appreciation that comes from experiencing separation and reunion. They delve into the different communication styles and the evolution of their relationships. The episode concludes with a discussion on the importance of expressing love and feeling safe in a relationship, as well as appreciating each other's unique traits and strengths.
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*Music by Alex Grohl: "Rebellions"
