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In this conversation, Amy and Nicole discuss the concept of human design and its role in understanding oneself. They explore how human design can provide insights into an individual's purpose and energy blueprint. The conversation then shifts to the topic of prisons and why they are built to break. Amy shares an email she received that suggests that prisons rob incarcerated individuals of their deep human needs for contribution, purpose, and meaning. They discuss the importance of connection and validation in the prison system and how finding purpose can make a significant difference in an individual's experience. Amy also shares how she attuned her partner, Ru, to Reiki to provide him with a sense of purpose and healing while incarcerated. The conversation then shifts to the topic of prisons and the need for rehabilitation rather than punishment. They mention the documentary 'Unlocked' and express their desire to have the sheriff, Eric Higgins, as a guest on their show. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the possibility of having the cast members on their show.

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*Music by Alex Grohl: "Rebellions"