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Natalie Peyton Neumann sits down with Dwayne Goetzel—attorney, father, creative thinker, and someone who’s navigated career choices without a roadmap. They talk about growing up in Kerrville, the unexpected moment in Germany that pushed him toward law, and how hard truths early in his career helped him grow into a trusted expert in intellectual property.

This episode covers mentorship, money, personal growth, and what Gen Z can learn about sticking with things—even when the path isn’t clear. A must-listen for anyone feeling overwhelmed by choices and craving real guidance.


Whether you’re Gen Z and unsure about your next steps, or someone in the middle of a career pivot, this episode will offer relatable and teachable moments. It’s funny, it’s insightful, and it’s full of honesty about ambition, identity, and doing the work.

🔹 Want to understand what trademark law is really like?

🔹 Curious how mentorship can show up in unexpected ways? 🔹 Need motivation to keep moving forward when things feel unclear?

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