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There are two kinds of people in this world: those who know Phil M. Jones and those who need to know Phil M. Jones. In this episode, Michael Sutton welcomes Phil, the acclaimed author of Exactly What to Say, who has helped millions learn the secrets to communicate with purpose and precision. Phil’s ability to make complex ideas feel simple and natural is unmatched, and here he shares how small shifts in language can create significant results.

Phil is a brilliant thinker. His middle initial, "M" might just be for meta. With Michael, Phil dives into his "magic words"—phrases that instantly transform ordinary conversations into meaningful interactions and can help listeners learn how to be more persuasive. Each word choice is crafted not just to convey a message but to invite a desired response. He demonstrates how these certain phrases & words open minds and inspire action without pressure, making anyone a better communicator by speaking to human instincts.

Learn how to sell without selling. This conversation goes beyond typical sales techniques. It’s about how the right words can make people feel understood, build genuine trust, and lead without ever feeling pushy. Whether you're leading a team, engaging clients, or simply wanting more fulfilling conversations, this episode reveals how the magic of language can empower you to achieve more while staying true to yourself. As Phil often says, "change your words, change your world."

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