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A conversation with Chaya Lester, a psychotherapist, author, speaker, and poet, about the significance of internal, spiritual work during a time of collective upheaval, how we can become more attuned to divine messages through our daily interactions and dreams, and how we are all being invited to practice spiritual chutzpah in order to reveal the divine reality of the world.

Video episode is available on Youtube. Episode is sponsored in honor of Yosef Dovid ben Yehoshua's birthday, by his parents, Josh & Goldie Grinberg.You can find out more about Chaya Lester, as well as links to purchase her work, here: www.chayalester.comEpisode Partners:TOVEEDO: An online children's streaming subscription featuring exclusive Jewish content created and sourced by Toveedo. Use code HH10 for 10% off at Toveedo.com.ZELDA HAIR: A wig company that champions the holistic process of hair covering for Jewish women. Shop Zelda Hair at zeldahairshop.com and discover the heart behind the brand on Instagram @zeldahair.To inquire about sponsorship & advertising opportunities, please email us at info@humanandholy.comTo support our work, visit patreon.com/humanandholy or humanandholy.com/sponsor.Find us on Instagram @humanandholy & subscribe to our channel to stay up to date on all our upcoming conversations ✨Human & Holy podcast available on all podcast streaming platforms. New episodes every Sunday on Youtube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Google Podcasts.Timestamps:00:00 Host’s Introduction01:55 Dedication to Yosef Dovid ben Yehoshua 2:15 Toveedo Sponsorship3:16 Zelda Hair Sponsorship03:36 Conversation with Chaya Lester Begins08:07 Chaya's Spiritual Journey13:14 The Torah is Our Story16:53 Developing Spiritual Sensitivity18:40 Embracing Spiritual Chutzpah22:00 Who Am I in the Face of Our Jewish History?25:19 The Impact of Spiritual Work on Current Events26:12 Paying Attention to Divine Messages27:42 Messianic Era: Dystopian or Utopian?28:34 Transforming Destruction into Expression29:17 The Journey from Exile to Redemption31:25 The Higher Consciousness Within Pain32:32 Three Ways to Integrate Divine Consciousness 34:24 Personal Work Reflects Collective Work38:04 Dreams as a Source of Guidance40:53 Chaya’s Dream 49:15 Poem52:50 Host’s Outro