In the world of scientific data, new understandings of the internal mechanisms that create substance abuse, and harm reduction, have we lost the voice of abstinence? We have on Alexis and Giuseppe from the New West area of Vancouver to talk about how they feel that the abstinence option of drug treatment and recovery is being lost. Treatment for addiction is often funded based on evidenced based practices, which anonymous programs do not meet the criteria for. We explore why all the funding seems to go towards medicated assisted treatment and there is no funding for the abstinent individual. And when it comes time to have a conversation about how to help people, the abstinence voice is missing from the table. Listen in and share your opinions with us about what needs to be done. Join the conversation by leaving a message, emailing us at RecoverySortOf@gmail.com, or find us on Twitter, Facebook or Instagram, or find us on our website at www.recoverysortof.com.