If Part One was about where we come from, this conversation is about where we are choosing to go.
In Part Two, I return to the mic with my co-host Donald MacLean to talk about the next chapter—about intention, responsibility, and what it means to keep showing up as men, educators, and community workers.
We reflect on the future not as a blank slate, but as something shaped by what we already carry: our histories, our losses, our lessons. We talk candidly about ageing, purpose, and the quiet work of staying committed to learning, to conversation, and to creating spaces where men can speak honestly about their inner lives.
This episode looks toward 2026 and beyond not with grand declarations, but with clarity. With an understanding that progress is often slow, relational, and unglamorous. That the work is not about visibility, but usefulness. Not about having answers, but about asking better questions.
We speak about legacy not as something dramatic, but as something lived. About continuing Trims & Talk, continuing the work within the Black Barbers Project, and continuing to hold space for dialogue rooted in trust rather than performance.
Part Two is not a conclusion.
It is a commitment.
A conversation about staying the course.
