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In this episode of the Managed Chaos Podcast, Katrina sits down with Clara Ma, Founder and CEO of Ask a Chief of Staff, to unpack the evolving and often misunderstood role of the Chief of Staff.Clara shares her journey from Chief of Staff to accidental founder, highlighting the adaptability, resilience, and chaos management required to build both a business and a thriving professional community. Together, they explore how Chiefs of Staff can better support executives, navigate ambiguity, and use community intelligence to grow stronger in their roles.This episode is a must-listen for Chiefs of Staff, founders, operators, and leaders navigating growth, complexity, and change.🔗 Connect with Clara & Ask a Chief of StaffClara Ma on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claramaAsk a Chief of Staff Newsletter: https://askachiefofstaff.substack.com/Ask a Chief of Staff Website: https://www.askachiefofstaff.comAsk a Chief of Staff Community: https://ask-a-cos.notion.site/Introducing-The-Ask-a-Chief-of-Staff-Community-8b093f5af6134b6c9267e3c2804a87ecAs always, we give you the startup business rundown in less time than it takes for you to get to work.✨ Special Offer from Pobl.io Outsourcing US tech talent shouldn’t be a challenge. With pobl.io You’ll get high-quality teams on demand and enjoy huge cost savings for your business. Try it now at pobl.io. Mention the amazing Managed Chaos when you email us and get a free market data report. 📧 Contact: contact@pobl.io