In this conversation, the hosts mix things up a little bit. Peyton interviews her grandmother, Sue Shuckhart, about her experience with motherhood. They discuss the importance of family, the joys and challenges of being a mother, and the value of finding support and friendship. Sue shares advice on choosing happiness, practicing gratitude, and nurturing oneself. They also talk about finding fulfillment outside of marriage and motherhood, and the importance of exploring new experiences. The conversation highlights the strong bond between Peyton and her grandmother and the wisdom Sue has gained throughout her life.