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Grant Merrell, a former pastor who transitioned into suicide prevention, joins the show for an emotional and insightful episode. Grant shares his journey of self-discovery, coming out as a gay man, and the challenges he faced in the church. He also emphasizes the tremendous importance of having uncomfortable conversations about suicide, his work in connecting people to life-saving resources, and the transferable skills he's leveraged across his careers. This powerful conversation is both inspirational and deeply meaningful, shedding light on the importance of community, acceptance, and mental health.

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00:00 Introduction and Trigger Warning

00:40 Grant Merrell's Career Journey

03:15 Struggles and Self-Discovery

05:29 Coming Out and Personal Growth

17:55 Transition to Suicide Prevention

27:59 Skills and Impact in Suicide Prevention

34:22 Conclusion and Final Thoughts