When Stephen Abrams did shows during his middle and high school years, I was struck by how his calm and quiet everyday persona resonated onstage. During our discussion, I learned that Stephen’s post high school experience was anything but calm. Therefore, I feel this episode requires a serious footnote. I’m extremely grateful that Stephen felt comfortable enough to be so open and forthcoming with his story and for approving the edit. However, what he shared took our visit to dire places that may not be suitable to more
sensitive listeners. Recorded on 10/5/24.
