In this episode of Leading Complexity, Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe sit down with Bjarte Bogsnes, the pioneer behind Beyond Budgeting, to explore how organizations can move beyond traditional financial governance. Together, they unpack Bjarte’s insights on creating more human and adaptive organizations, addressing the pitfalls of conventional management models, and fostering true business agility. Join the conversation as the hosts clarify key principles of Beyond Budgeting and highlight practical steps for navigating today’s complex and fast-changing business environment.