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Chef Perry Tobin discusses her experience on the cooking show Rat in the Kitchen, where she served as the 'rat' who sabotaged the other contestants' dishes. She talks about the casting process, being in quarantine before filming, and the challenges of being the rat. Perry shares her cooking experiences during quarantine and how her company supported her during the show. She also discusses the pride and support she received from her coworkers after the show aired. Perry and Nikki discuss their experience on the reality cooking show 'Rat in the Kitchen' and reflect on their time on set. They talk about their initial impressions of the set and the production, including the number of cameras and the attention to detail in the kitchen set. They also discuss the challenges of cooking under pressure and the difficulty of intentionally making food taste bad. They reflect on the dynamics between the contestants and the strategies used to identify the 'rat' among them. The conversation highlights the behind-the-scenes manipulation by production and the importance of not judging reality cooking shows too harshly. In this final part of the conversation, Nikki and Perry discuss their thoughts on the reality show they participated in and their desire to do more shows in the future. They also talk about food news, including Meghan Markle's cooking show and the investigation into grocery store prices. The conversation ends with a discussion about the trend of tinned fish and the launch of a fragrance that smells like warm pretzels.keywordscooking show, Rat in the Kitchen, casting process, quarantine, challenges, support, coworkers, reality cooking show, Rat in the Kitchen, set, production, cameras, kitchen, cooking under pressure, intentionally making food taste bad, identifying the rat, dynamics between contestants, behind-the-scenes manipulation, not judging reality cooking shows, reality show, cooking show, Meghan Markle, grocery store prices, tinned fish, fragrance, warm pretzelstakeaways