T&J welcome award-winning filmmaker Chase Joynt and his new film, STATE OF FIRST! T&J and Chase discuss the film's brilliant journey with Sarah McBride, America’s first Trans Member of Congress, the challenges of representing trans issues in the current political climate, and the creative process behind the film. The trio also dig deep into the Democratic Party's continued fumbling of trans rights, the media's role in shaping narratives, and the importance of well executed political content. You can watch the whole episode on Spotify, YouTube, and listen on Apple.