BASELINE exposes the truth behind AI’s unstoppable rise.
In-depth interviews with AI experts, real analysis, and insights you can trust on the technology reshaping our world.
Gavin Ray is back on BASELINE and rejoins us because GPT-4.5 just passed the Turing Test-scoring 73% when given a persona. That means most people thought the AI was the human. In this episode, we explore what that really means, and how you can still stay ahead by learning the skill of prompt engineering.
We dive into conversational prompting, emotional mimicry, AI behavior design, and test whether Gavin can spot the difference between real and generated responses. If AI now sounds human, the only thing that sets you apart is how you speak to it. This is your field guide to understanding and mastering generative AI.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 – GPT-4.5 Passes the Turing Test
03:10 – Can You Tell Who’s Human?
07:42 – Prompting as a Martial Art
13:25 – AI Emotional Mimicry and Rapport
19:04 – The Ethics of Engagement
26:31 – The UK’s AI Dilemma
33:18 – Liability and the Illusion of Intelligence
41:06 – Just Start: Learning to Speak AI
55:12 – Utopia or Dystopia? The Future We Choose
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