In this conversation, we delve into the profound impact of fear on addiction and recovery. We explore personal experiences with various fears, including fear of abandonment, failure, and responsibility, and how these fears often lead to self-sabotage. The discussion highlights the role of trauma in addiction, the challenges of navigating relationships, and the process of coping with loss and grief. We emphasise the importance of living in the present, letting go of fears, and recognising that thoughts do not define one's reality. Ultimately, the conversation serves as a testament to the growth that can emerge from painful experiences in recovery.