Luke talks to Witch, podcaster and security officer Swailes about her whitchcraft podcast and the power of manifestation. She tells a great story about being careful what you wish for, that Luke improvises a soundtrack to with help of a shruti box instrument.
Swaile's podcast: The Bell Witch podcast
Her instagram: @the_bell_witch_podcast
Timestamps
1. Introduction, Guest Welcome, and Everyday Magic (00:00:06 – 00:03:14)
Host introduces Wales, the friendly Green Witch, welcomes her to the podcast, and Wales describes her own podcast, which explores witchcraft, paganism, and spirituality. She shares how she discovered witchcraft after becoming a mother and reading "Witch" by Lisa Lister. The conversation shifts to superstition and everyday magical practices, such as birthday candles and Christmas trees, with Wales explaining the ritual and intention behind these acts as forms of magic and manifestation.
2. Podcast Map Project, Story Locations, and Oceanic Music (00:03:24 – 00:05:05)
The host introduces the podcast’s map project and York as the location for the upcoming story. Improvised music is played, prompting Wales to describe oceanic imagery and the emotions evoked by the piece. They discuss the layers beneath the surface in both music and life, and the importance of being willing to explore them.
3. Story: Sigil Magic, Personal Growth, and Musical Interpretation (00:06:32 – 00:08:33; 00:10:06 – 00:11:23)
Wales recounts her first experience with sigil magic during a moon circle in York, involving bread baking. She explains the significance of her first sigil and its impact on her personal growth. The host improvises music to accompany the story, and Wales shares her emotional response, viewing music as a form of magic. She discusses her regret at not being musically trained, the relationship between music and witchcraft, and her use of instruments like the shruti box in ritual and meditation.
4. Cautionary Tale: Manifesting Money and the Universe’s Neutrality (00:12:32 – 00:14:01; 00:16:17 – 00:19:34)
Wales tells a cautionary tale about manifesting money, her husband’s near-redundancy, and the unintended consequences of magic, emphasizing the need for specificity in manifestation. They discuss the universe’s lack of moral bias in responding to magical requests. The host creates a musical piece using the shruti box, reflecting the emotional journey, while Wales describes how the drone represents the universe’s constant presence during manifestation.
5. Reflections, Podcast Map, and Farewell (00:20:40 – 00:23:19)
Wales reflects on her experience being on the podcast and hearing her stories interpreted musically. She shares where listeners can find her podcast, her interest in collaborations, and her latest episode featuring singer Shannon Pearl and the art of Cornyn. The host and Wales discuss the map project marking story locations, including York and Leeds Bradford airport. The episode concludes with thanks and information on where to find the Bell Witch podcast.
