Episode Summary:In this profoundly moving episode, Mary Coughlin sits down with Dr. Emma Jones — palliative care physician, mother, teacher, and author of The Phoenix Blueprint — to explore the raw truths behind burnout, healing, and reclaiming wholeness. Together, they unpack what it means to hit bottom not in a single moment, but over years of self-sacrifice, disintegration, and depletion. Emma shares her personal journey from collapse to renewal, her reflections on the myths of “self-care” and “compassion fatigue,” and the radical reimagining required to transform both healthcare systems and ourselves.
This episode is a heart-centered call to stop hiding behind perfection, to embrace the messy fullness of our humanity, and to care out loud — in public, in connection, and in sacred witness to ourselves and each other.
What You’ll Hear in This Episode:
Emma’s Whisper to Every Listener:“You are whole — and wholeness isn’t the absence of suffering. It’s being seen, heard, and honored as a whole person, not a problem to be solved.”
Resources Mentioned:– Dr. Emma Jones’ book The Phoenix Blueprint– Website: emmajonesmd.com– Find her book wherever books are sold
Work With Emma:Emma is currently offering flexible 1:1 sessions through summer and fall — an open invitation for anyone ready to explore their own path toward renewal.
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