In this powerful role-reversal episode, Nicola Humber (founder of The Unbound Press) takes the mic and interviews our host, Sarah Lloyd, on the very theme that underpins this podcast: shame.
But this isn’t your typical interview! It’s a deep, raw, and beautifully honest conversation between two women who’ve dedicated their work to truth-telling and shadow-walking.
In this episode, we explore:
- Why shame chose Sarah, not the other way around
- How Sarah’s PR background collided with her spiritual journey
- The link between shame and external validation, especially for women
- Personal stories of "not enough-ness," people-pleasing, and high heels at awards shows
- How working with shame isn’t about having it all figured out, but staying with it, witnessing it, and transmuting it
- What it really means to live shamelessly in parenting, in publishing, and in being seen
Sarah also shares:
- The story behind Shame-less Stories, the podcast and upcoming book
- Why no story is “too small” and how everyday shame shapes our lives
- An open invitation for contributors who want to write, reflect, or share their own shame-to-shameless journey
Want to be part of the book?
Sarah’s calling in diverse voices, real reflections, and messy, human truth-telling, from poetry to prose, from little shames to life-changing moments. If you feel the nudge, reach out to her directly here Key takeaway:
We don’t need to be done with shame to do this work. We just need to be willing to face it, name it, and find our freedom through it.
