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Episode 35...In this episode, we sit down on the campus of Lee University with Dr. Bill Estes…a respected educator, community leader, and member of the Cleveland City Council. From stories about his personal life to reflections on local government, education reform, and the future of our city, Dr. Estes brings both wisdom and warmth to the table.

Paul and Matt ask about the lessons he’s learned through decades in education, how he views leadership in the public square, and what it means to shape a city from the inside out. Whether you're a student, a teacher, or someone who just wants to understand your community better—this one’s for you.

🎙️ Recorded in the heart of Cleveland, TN 📍 Now streaming on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts

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