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Season 1: Episode 32...In this riverside episode of Downright Mindful, Matt and Paul settle in on the banks of the Hiwassee River in Charleston, TN to reflect on the final days of the school year and the kinds of relationships that form in the classroom when you're truly paying attention.

They swap stories about hosting European exchange students, the lessons they brought into the room, and the broader benefits of travel—whether it’s across the globe or just down the street. Matt shares a thought: Maybe the deepest kind of travel is simply opening your eyes to the community around you.

Due to a camera cutoff, the conversation continues in a companion audio-only episode, available now wherever you listen to podcasts.

🎧 Listen to the full conversation on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.