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Episode 46 of Downright Mindful has all the makings of a blues song. Paul kicks things off talking about the blues and puts Matt on the spot, handing him a guitar and asking for a few raw blues notes (rusty strings and all).

From there, the conversation winds its way through a comparison of blues and bluegrass, a nod to Folsom Prison Blues, and finally into a deeper discussion as Paul interviews Matt about the history of prisons and jails in the United States.

It’s music, it’s storytelling, and it’s the blues of real life—all in one episode.

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