What really drives us to change? In this episode of That's Curious, Amanda sits down with Dr. Brad Lundahl of the University of Utah, a clinical psychologist, professor, and expert in motivation, to unpack the psychology behind behavior change. From debunking myths about laziness to revealing the science of what makes change stick, Brad shares insights that can help you make lasting change. If you’ve ever struggled to stay on track with a goal, this conversation might just change the way you think about change.