He built AI-powered lunar rovers at NASA.
He was in the room when GPT launched.
Now, Logan Kilpatrick is helping developers push the boundaries of AI at Google DeepMind.
In this episode, Logan shares his front-row view of AI’s most pivotal moments—and how they hint at the next paradigm shifts.
We also get into:
• inside Open AI on Launch day
• how Google DeepMind’s Gemini 2.0 Flash is flipping the script on AI economics
• the open-source vs. proprietary AI debate, and
• why AI’s next frontier is deeply integrated, multimodal agents
Plus, Logan unpacks his insights as an investor—where he sees opportunity in AI, what founders keep getting wrong, and why the most successful startups won’t look like today’s incumbents.
00:00 Trailer
01:19 Introduction
02:41 Inspired by Floppybird
03:53 OpenAI Developer Relations
08:55 Where AI is heading
14:41 Google DeepMind
17:47 As an AI founder, B2B and GSuite customer
21:29 Better model, low cost
27:12 Agentic AI and Google Gemini
29:32 AGI and DeekSeek
35:55 Investor and AI founder perspectives
44:43 What's next from Google
48:38 Outro