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In this interview transcript, Hugging Face co-founder Thomas Wolf discusses his non-traditional journey from physics and law into the world of entrepreneurial AI. He emphasizes that open-source development is a vital catalyst for human progress because it allows for transparent collaboration and creative experimentation that private labs cannot match. Wolf explains that successful open-source software requires a seamless onboarding experience and a thoughtful balance between user control and simplicity. He also notes that while building production-ready products remains a difficult process, the open-source ecosystem empowers startups to innovate without reinventing basic architecture. Looking forward, he predicts that as open models reach parity with closed ones, the primary value in the industry will shift toward the application layer and user interaction. This shift offers significant opportunities for new founders to build valuable companies on top of existing open foundations.