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You don’t need a perfect routine — you need the right mindset and recovery.

In this episode, Erik talks with Katie Hunt and Matt Drilias from Strength Sanctuary in Milwaukee about what it really takes to get stronger, stay consistent, and feel better — physically and mentally.

They cover the power of sauna and cold plunge therapy, why mindset matters as much as movement, and the overlooked recovery tools that actually work.

Whether you’re training hard or just trying to build better habits, this episode will leave you fired up.