The magical Catherine (Cat) Grubb joined TBA for a great, wide-ranging and earnest conversation. Cat and Kipp discussed their mutual admiration for their teacher Adam Elenbaas. Then the duo talked about Cat's paper discussing astrology as a stellar divination. The episode ends with Cat doing their best to help Kipp use pronouns the correct way, why it makes people feel included to try and how great it was to have people place their pronouns on their name tags at NORWAC. @occultproblems on twitter
