My purpose in episode is for everyone to hear different perspectives. These ladies are great human beings and wonderful Christians. I can vouch for both of them. These conversations are important because you may not hear the other perspective in your everyday life. I learned something during both of the interviews. And I believe you will too. So please listen to BOTH of them. The biggest lesson I learned is that essentially we are having two different conversations. I don't know how to fix this, but I think that is a great place to start. Everyone listening please feel free to message me at anytime if you have any questions. I am open and listening to talk about anything.