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Ryan Ao, interviews Cindy Marshall in this episode 17 of The Flip. Ryan met Cindy through Chantal Alcaraz, a previous guest on "The Flip" (Episode 5 here in case you want to listen to that). They met through Ayurveda training courses.  Cindy, through some minor drug experimentation in her youth, ended up having bad internal reactions to them and developed "Depersonalization Disorder" (DP) and was only able to heal it years later through the Daily Habits and Rhythms of Ayurveda which she now teaches for a career. Topics covered include her recommendations for alternatives to altered states like nature, meditation, Ayurveda and more. For some people marijuana, LSD, or childhood trauma,  can cause stress, anxiety, depression or in some cases like Cindy, DP. Additional topics: circadian rhythms,  solutions for getting better sleep, daily habits of Ayurveda which she believes can heal anything even stage 4 cancer and help you live to over 100 years old. A link she recommends is www.dprecovery.com as well as the book DP Manual at www.dpmanual.com  You can connect with Cindy and work with her Beyond Well course focused on Daily Habits of Ayurveda at: beyondwellliving.com  Ryan Ao is the founder/director of AO Productions https://www.ryanao.com which focuses on Emotion driven story, commercial media that unifies your brand elegance with the human experience. Contact Ryan@ryanao.com to share your flip story on this podcast.