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Ryan Ao met Taylor Mathes through the Ao Gallery and studio lease takeover situation about 4 years ago in St. Johns. Through this Taylor has since created a thriving business in our old Ao space called Cathedral Park Salon and become Ryan's regular hair stylist. Ryan is getting his hair and beard cut in this episode to add to the dynamics! Issues talked about include Covid-19's impact on both our businesses and how we are doing in the midst of the pandemic and quarantine (not too well financially). We talk about his struggle with male-post-partum depression, a rare affliction. We also talk about how he has flipped his depression into finding solace through working with his wife to create an abundant backyard and frontyard farm with about 200-300 lbs of food per year. You can find his salon at: http://cathedralparksalon.com/