What makes a Visionary–Integrator relationship actually work in EOS®?
In this episode of Inside the 90, Jami and Andrew break down what it really takes to find, hire, and work with the right integrator. From timing and trust to healthy friction and accountability, they share real-world lessons from building Wonder on EOS—and why the Visionary–Integrator partnership is the glue that holds a company together.
If you’re a founder, visionary, or EOS-run organization, this episode will help you avoid common mistakes and build a stronger leadership team.
Key Topics:
- The Visionary–Integrator relationship in EOS.
- How to find and hire the right integrator.
- Timing and fit versus experience.
- Trust, friction, and mutual accountability.
- EOS tools: Same Page, Level 10, Issues List.
- Fractional integrators vs. full-time integrators.
- The Five Rules of the Visionary–Integrator relationship.
Chapters:
0:00 – Welcome and seasonal catch-up.
3:45 – Jamie’s early EOS experience and first integrator-like partnership.
8:30 – Why the integrator role is hard to get right.
13:15 – Searching for the right integrator and defining fit.
18:40 – Scaling creativity without over-process.
23:30 – Timing, trust, and finding Warren.
28:10 – Why the VI relationship is the glue of EOS.
33:20 – Healthy friction vs. weak VI dynamics.
38:45 – Letting the integrator truly own the seat.
44:10 – Financial acumen and the Disney VI example.
48:30 – Where and how to find an integrator.
54:10 – Fractional integrators and transition strategies.
58:30 – The Five Rules of the Visionary–Integrator relationship.
1:05:20 – Final advice and next steps for visionaries.
