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Pensacola City Administrator Tim Kinsella joins host Rick Outzen to discuss his surprising decision to leave city government for a position at Navy Federal Credit Union.

In this candid conversation, Kinsella reflects on his time working with Mayor Reeves, the challenges of implementing visionary leadership in municipal government, and the cultural changes needed to make city operations more agile and effective.

The former military leader shares insights on bringing an outsider's perspective to local government, the importance of building trust with department directors, and the organizational restructuring that created clearer lines of communication.

Kinsella also discusses major city initiatives like South Palafox redevelopment and the base center project, while offering advice for his successor on navigating the complexities of municipal administration.

This episode provides a behind-the-scenes look at the realities of city government and the delicate balance between political vision and operational execution.