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Calling all Steves! Host Meg Reynolds sat down with creative director & jort-enthusiast Jon Kilmer this week. They went back to where it all began with artist Mike (previously Mike Stud), how together they built an incredible community, and what qualifies as "good" music.

Plus Kilmer revealed whether or not he's a Swiftie and his secret love of a certain 2000s pop diva. All this & more on Not the Girl Next Door!

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