Why are entry-level jobs disappearing—just as companies claim they can't find qualified talent? How can managers lead in a world where AI handles the tasks but not the people? And what happens when employees want stability while leadership pushes for agility?
In this episode of The Future of Less Work, host Nirit Cohen sits down with Kyle Forrest, Principal at Deloitte Consulting and U.S. Future of HR Leader, to unpack some of the biggest contradictions shaping work today.
Drawing on insights from Deloitte’s 2025 Global Human Capital Trends Report, they explore the growing experience gap, the challenge of stagility—balancing stability with agility—and what it takes to reimagine the manager role in a fast-changing world.
Together, they look at how leaders can redesign work for learning, well-being, and performance—not just productivity. They talk about preparing Gen Z for jobs that no longer look like jobs, using AI to unlock human potential, and why the future of work needs to center on human sustainability.
If you’re navigating the space between disruption and design, this episode offers practical insight—and an invitation to rethink what work is really for.
Guest Information:
Kyle Forrest, principal, Deloitte Consulting LLP and US Future of HR Leader
Chapters:
00:00 – Why Entry-Level Jobs Are Disappearing
03:00 – The Experience Gap and What We’re Missing
06:30 – How Companies Can Rethink Talent Pipelines
09:00 – AI Fluency as the New Career Advantage
11:30 – Reimagining Onboarding and Learning at Work
13:00 – Why People No Longer Trade All Their Time
15:00 – Personalization, Motivation, and the Role of the Manager
18:30 – Freeing Managers to Actually Lead
21:00 – Rethinking the Manager Track
22:30 – The “Stagility” Tension: Stability vs Agility
25:30 – What It Will Take to Lead with Agility
27:00 – From Hierarchies to Networks (Will It Finally Happen?)
28:30 – Human Sustainability as the Real Metric
30:30 – From Billion-Dollar Companies to Billion-Dollar Individuals
