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Friend of the pod Karuna Long (Sophon, Oliver’s Twist) stops by to chop it up! Learn about his journey from bartender to bar owner to chef/owner—and how the pandemic made him realize an opportunity to create more space for Cambodian culture in Seattle. Karuna also tells us about how his family briefly crossed paths with “donut king” Ted Ngoy, and why donut boxes are pink.

We also talk about Sophon’s James Beard Award nomination for Best New Bar, and the complicated feelings that come with recognition from an organization that has historically fallen short of inclusiveness.  

Plus Meg goes to the opera, Mark goes to the Japanese-style vinyl listening lounge, and we all go report on the local restaurant news—and our favorite bites—of the week.

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00:00 Intro

10:46 Karuna’s Story

15:20 Donut King Ted Ngoy

17:26 Opening Sophon

19:49 Traditional vs. Modern Cambodian Food

21:56 Sophon at One Year

26:20 Creating a Cambodian Bar Program

29:19 Pre-News Taste Test

31:29 Restaurant News This Week

40:01 Sophon’s James Beard Award Nom

44:34 Chubby Brown Boys

47:17 Thanks, I Ate It!

01:00:55 Coming Up Next