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Exploring SOC Surveys, AI, and Cybersecurity Trends with Christopher CrowleyIn this episode of the Cyber PMM podcast, I interview Christopher Crowley, a cybersecurity consultant at Montance LLC and instructor at the SANS Institute.

We discuss his extensive +20-year journey in cybersecurity, from high school tape backups to handling major incidents during Hurricane Katrina. Chris delves into his work on the annual SANS SOC survey, revealing key trends in security operations, AI, and the evolving role of SOC analysts. We also explore challenges in implementing AI, the importance of meaningful work in retaining talent, and what the future may hold for SOCs. Product marketers can gain insights into how to better resonate with their target audience in the cybersecurity field.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

00:31 Early Career and Entry into Cybersecurity

02:41 Challenges and Lessons from Hurricane Katrina

04:36 Transition to Government Contracting and Consulting

05:42 The Role and Impact of IANS

07:05 Deep Dive into Security Operations (SecOps)

07:51 The SANS SOC Survey: Origins and Evolution

14:59 Trends in AI and Technology Satisfaction

19:33 Employee Retention and Work-Life Balance in SOCs

23:35 The Paradox of Automation

24:08 Incremental Improvements in SOC

25:27 Future Vision: AI in SOC

25:59 Three Buckets of AI Integration

28:04 Building Custom AI Tools

34:44 Outsourcing and AI Agents

36:46 Skills Needed for SOC Analysts

39:24 Marketing to SOCs

45:16 Getting Involved in SOC Surveys

47:03 Conclusion and Final Thoughts