Samar is the CEO of the 'Karachi Down Syndrome Program,' which is an organisation that hopes to be a one-stop solution for everything that a person with down syndrome or their family might need, she is also a psychotherapist. We speak about the cognitive capital required to do the work that she does, about being a female CEO in a male-dominated society, about what it is to live and flourish with down syndrome, and what has informed her decision to work in this sector.