Keenjhar Khoso is a motivational speaker, a real estate agent (one of the very few females in the field in Karachi), social media manager, and philanthropist. We spoke about her various projects aimed at the mitigation of poverty in Karachi, about the merits and demerits of the women's empowerment movement in general, and the 'Aurat' march in particular, and about a national apathy that appears to be on the rise in Karachi.