Jack and Pat are joined by the influential Teine Toa herself Vania Wolfgramm.
Vania talks about being a mum, her journey as a Black Fern, her role with the NZRU, her commentating for Sky Sport, the Teine Toa program, Pasifika Aotearoa Cup, and the friendships she has made with her tight-knit group called the Bovis.
An awesome conversation with someone making a big difference in our communities through Sport and learnings.
