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Black Lives Matters - and so does Black Joy! In part two of our series, Christian Lwanda joins us and shares how he defines joy, what his grandmother Selah taught him and how he walks with both joy and suffering in his life. We shared experiences and laughter in this conversation as well as the strengths of Kenyan culture that have guided the country through generations of change and resistance. Shout out to local artists whose incredible home goods were a part of our set: Love Artisan (IG: @loveartisan), Tira Student (IG: @tirastudio) and Tope Ceramics (IG: @tope_kenya). This episode was recorded and edited by Wambui Ngombo for Blackink Films (blackincfilms@gmail.com). The Up/Root jingle is written and performed by my daughter Selah.