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As 2025 comes to a close, Ravit Gutman and Mike Jasper sat down at Extropy's headquarters in Florida for an honest, forward-looking conversation about what this year taught us, and how those lessons are shaping the road ahead.

In this episode, they reflect on:

This isn’t a highlight reel. It’s a grounded conversation about focus, people, and building systems — and cultures — that last.