In this engaging conversation, Kevin reconnects with his old friend Pauleen Hope, reflecting on their shared military experiences and personal growth. They discuss the importance of patience, the challenges of transitioning from military to civilian life, and the impact of family and community on their identities. Pauleen shares her journey from a multi-generational immigrant household in Seattle to her decision to join the military, highlighting the resilience and confidence she developed along the way. Pauleen opens up about her struggles with unemployment, mental health, and the journey to sobriety, emphasizing the importance of seeking support and personal growth. The conversation culminates in a reflection on legacy and the impact one can have on others through their story.